06/02/2026
Say That With Love Episode 8 is here — and it asks a question our policies must answer: when does a Black child stop being seen as a child?
Dr. Leah Austin is joined by child & adolescent psychiatrist Dr. Byron Young to talk about adultification — "projecting onto children the qualities, characteristics, and consequences of adulthood" — and how our systems strip innocence from Black children far too early.
The data is sobering: it can begin as young as five for Black girls and around ten for Black boys. And it carries real consequences — Black children face harsher school discipline, higher rates of police involvement, and less protection across the very systems built to serve them.
As Dr. Young puts it: "At what point does that dehumanization start? It happens so early, so quickly. And it's a real travesty."
That's why Is Seen as a Child is one of NBCDI's Eight Essential Outcomes. Affirming Black childhood means building policy and practice — in schools, child welfare, and health care — that protect Black children's right to simply be children.
📺 Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/j8iRuHzOe00
🎧 Listen now → nbcdi.org/podcast