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I think it’s safe to say that this guy is a TEENY bit excited about the fact that today was the final day of his high sc...
05/29/2026

I think it’s safe to say that this guy is a TEENY bit excited about the fact that today was the final day of his high school career, with graduation looming just one week away…Evidence including, but not limited to, him INSISTING on trying on his cap and gown pretty much the MOMENT he walked in the door from school!!

Laissez Les Bons Temps Rouler! Graduation NOLA Style!Round 1:From the very start of my time at Tulane, in January 2021, ...
05/29/2026

Laissez Les Bons Temps Rouler! Graduation NOLA Style!

Round 1:
From the very start of my time at Tulane, in January 2021, which started as pursuing a dual-masters degree in social work and science with a focus in disaster resilience leadership, everyone said, “No matter what, you HAVE to go to graduation!” The general consensus was that it was a fantastic party, unlike any other college graduation, and definitely not to be missed…

However, life had other plans for me, and instead of attending my master’s graduation, I attended to Gianna, sitting vigil at her bedside in the intensive care unit, during the first round of the insane digestive failure that would paint the colors of her final time here on earth…

I would not have traded my place in December of 2022 for anything in the world, and due to the fact that was already a semester in to my doctorate in public health, I knew that, assuming I played my cards right, (or, unbeknownst to me, persevered through my studies, despite unimaginable tragedy,) I’d still get that Tulane graduation extravaganza in the end…

And so I did.

The photos in this album are technically 5 1/2 years in the making, but also exactly as they were intended to be. Gianna and Giacomo were most certainly there in spirit, with Michael, Isadora, Lukas, and me all throughout our gallivanting about New Orleans, and as much as I would have hoped for all four of my offspring to bear witness to me crossing that stage, we do not get to choose how life plays out, and I was BEYOND grateful to have the three best earthly cheerleaders in the crowd…

This bunch is from our first full day, which commenced with my doctoral hooding ceremony, during which time I was reminded that I somehow made the Dean’s list with my 4.0 GPA, and also, despite my best efforts to keep it together, broke down as my accomplishments and postdoctoral plans were being mentioned, they threw in a little bit about me completing the program on time, despite the tragic loss of two of my kids… That got me (and quite a few in the crowd) a bit misty, after the audible gasp, from those who were unaware of Gianna and Giacomo’s fate. This was followed by an amazing, prolonged hug from Dr. Susan Cheng, the program director and one of my biggest supporters throughout the journey, and a VERY unexpected standing ovation from my fellow classmates (see the link in the comments for the video 🥹🥹).

The rest of that first day was spent in New Orleans style, much like the rest of them were, with an abundance of food, beverages, street car rides, and absolute delight at the fact that this is where we got to celebrate one of my greatest accomplishments in life, with the best earthside company possible…And this was just the beginning of the festivities!!

I have often said that “I wish I would have known myself back then,” in reference to when I was having babies, as educat...
05/22/2026

I have often said that “I wish I would have known myself back then,” in reference to when I was having babies, as education, training, and a pile of life experience has made me much wiser now as a birth professional than I was when I was a young mother, years before I even knew what a doula was…

As I sit here and reflect, on the seven-year anniversary of watching Giacomo go lifeless and heroically revived in front of me all because of one doctor’s terrible, unilateral decision that left me as his mother out of the discussion, now having completed a huge doctoral portfolio project designed to prevent other families from experiencing what we have, I find myself thinking the same thing—-“I wish I would’ve known myself back then.”

The hope is that I can take all that I have learned, and all that I have experienced and transform healthcare, for the patient, for families, and for care providers as well—-enhancing communication and support to ensure that trauma is minimized and outcomes are optimized…

In the meantime, as we all await to see how that pans out, please take the time to read this, as every one of us will likely face a critical medical situation for ourselves and/or someone we love, and it’s vital to be armed with untenable self-advocacy in those moments…It can literally be a matter of life or death, as I found out.

I will share this story EVERY year on this anniversary until EVERY doctor, nurse, and care provider remembers, with EVERY patient, and takes into consideration EVERY time, that there is nothing more powerful, meaningful, and also inexplicable than the intuition of a primary caregiver.

Read the full story below and here: https://my-vida.org/blog/the-price-of-being-right/

—The Price of Being Right—

I like being right. A lot. However, being right sometimes comes with a high price tag, as I found out yesterday.

Here’s the scene: In preparation for Giacomo’s surgery, I was told to anticipate a 2-week ICU stay to stabilize his breathing, amongst other things. At home, he currently gets great breathing support with his BiPAP machine, since his body isn’t strong enough to inhale enough oxygen and exhale enough carbon dioxide as soon as he falls asleep, in addition to that whole obstructive sleep apnea thing. His current mask covers both his mouth and nose, putting some pressure on his jaw, so with the major surgery in that area, extra pressure is not really a thing we want during the healing process. To deal with all this, and keep my guy breathing, it had been my thought that he would very likely get a tracheostomy tube placed.

About two weeks ago, all that changed, starting the cascade of events the led to what we are now calling “an unfortunate experiment.”
In finalizing surgical plans, it was brought to my attention that they were not planning to put in a tracheostomy tube, but had a plan to use the nasal mask for his BiPAP, which would not put pressure on the jaw. I was instantly skeptical, since A. When he first got his BiPAP and tried to use a nasal mask, it was an epic failure as he was not at all interested in breathing through his nose since B. He is NOT a nose-breathing kind of guy and never has been. I have brought up this skepticism in his ability to suddenly decide to breath through his nose to every single provider, nurse, and basically, every person who has come in contact with him, save for the one changing his garbages. I have told them, “Even if you are not responsible for his breathing, I want you to know that I am really concerned about this plan, and I just want to be sure that I have voiced my concern to as many people as possible, just in case.”

During his surgery, Giacomo was intubated on a breathing tube through his nose, which was ideal, to keep his mouth closed and allow for good healing in his jaw that was broken, repositioned and now pinned/screwed in a new place, with tight rubber bands and a splint adding additional support. Post-op he headed to the ICU with the tube still in place, something I had been told would be there for a little while as we ensured that he was stable. Keep in mind, when someone has myotonic dystrophy, general anesthesia itself and some of the medications used can be fatal, but often it’s the post-anesthesia problems that pose an issue, as it can take a long time for them to be able to handle secretions and to be able to breathe on their own without the ventilator support, making aspiration pneumonia and respiratory failure some pretty major issues. Knowing all this, along with my already-raised concerns, you can imagine my discontent when an ICU doctor, who I had never met before, stopped me before I even entered Giacomo’s room to inform me that they were planning to pull his tube nearly immediately.

Enter the roar of the tiger mama.

I firmly explained to this doctor that this was not the plan, as we needed to not rush things and keep him safe in order to minimize complications. I inquired if he was familiar with his disease and issues post-anesthesia, and he said, condescendingly, “Oh, yeah, his obstructive pulmonary disease?’
I, in my best calm roar possible, replied, “Actually I’m referring to his myotonic muscular dystrophy, which is primary to the obstructive pulmonary disease. You’ve read his chart right, and seen that is his primary diagnosis? And you also know about all of the post-op complications related to anesthesia, right?”
The condescending doctor replies, “Oh, yeah. Sure.”

I, tiger mama, am unconvinced with his cavalier reply. “So, you know that he is at a huge risk of respiratory failure and aspiration pneumonia now, right? So we’re going to leave that tube in. And you’re going to page his pulmonologist, right?”

I think you all can imagine that, at that moment, the tube stayed in and they paged pulmonology.
A few hours later Giacomo’s pulmonologist from his clinic, as well as the one from the ICU, showed up. I, again, expressed my concerns about extubating him. I was unpleasantly shocked that the doc who has been following him and his siblings, specifically related to their disease thought it was a good idea. I realized, at that moment, her part in the change of plans, as she claimed it would be totally fine and they would just put him straight on the BiPAP with that nasal mask and he would have no choice but to breathe through it since his mouth was now surgically closed. I, on the other hand, reminded her of the nearly 15 years of mouth breathing he is accustomed to, and told her I was worried, as I shed my first tears of this whole ordeal, reminding her that they needed to be sure he could breathe and that he had endured too much with his mouth leading up to this for them to put his life at risk and not be able to reap the benefits of this surgery.

“And what if you’re wrong and I am right? What if he doesn’t make that choice to breathe through his nose?” I asked her.

“Well, then we just reintubate him.”

I found this easier said than done, knowing it had taken about an hour and a half to finish prepping him for surgery once he was in the OR, a significant amount of that time spent intubating him. She goes on and on about how she really thinks this will be fine now that they have changed his anatomy. I go on to explain how anatomy is one thing, and functionality is another. This is something I have said at least 10,000 times to new families who have babies struggling to feed well when they have oral restrictions or challenges, challenges that can be overcome with time, exercises, practice, etc, but will not change immediately since the baby has been sucking improperly for a number of months at that point from practice in utero, plus their time spent outside the womb. I am talking to her about 15 YEARS of refusal to breathe through his nose.

Mid-argument, with tears of frustration, still flowing, my new best friend, the charge nurse who just happened to be in our room, spoke up.
“Her concerns are valid!”
Then her colleague, the ICU pulmonologist who also is now on his way to becoming my new best friend spoke up as well.
“I don’t think it’s a good idea to extubate him at all right now.”

Yes! I love these people! Finally, someone is listening!! He goes on to make a plan to override the other doctor’s opinion, keep the tube in overnight, and not try take it out until a lot of hands are on deck, including a critical airway team, who can get that tube back in quickly in the event that I, his mother, caregiver, advocate, and the person who knows him better than anyone in the world, happen to be right.

Overnight things are great, and G is happily sedated and intubated with no real events to note. I actually slept a few hours and started yesterday full of that hope that I have been harvesting all these years. Morning rounds go well, and I think we have a plan to gently remove him from the sedation, slowly decrease the assistance the ventilator is giving him to see if he might be inspired to breathe on his own again, and then give the tube removal a try, with that attempt to put the nasal mask and the BiPAP a whirl. I AGAIN voice my concerns to everyone who comes in contact with me and my guy. Some are listening. Unfortunately, the ones listening don’t have the pull to make the potential life-altering decisions of whether or not to pull out my son’s breathing tube.

Around 1:30 things start to happen, quickly. While G’s regular nurse is on break, someone comes in and tells the one filling in to turn off the propofol sedative and get ready because it will wear off quickly and he will start to come to rapidly. They take out his arterial line that has been giving consistent and accurate blood pressures plus a place to draw blood from. They pull his foley catheter before he’s fully awake. We have to hold his hands back away from the tube as both he starts waving them and moving his feet in sync as though he’s trying to climb through a tunnel. One of the residents comes in ready to pull the tube. I peek out the curtain and see a group of people outside I presume and soon realize are the critical airway team.

The doctor asks Giacomo to open his eyes. He shakes his head, “No.” He asks again. Same response. I ask him. He shakes his head again, “No.” The doctor presumes that he’s alert enough since he’s responding, even though he refuses to open his eyes. I tell him that I’m there that he’s got a tube in his nose helping him breathe and they want to take it out. I ask if he wants his music, the “Surgery Survival Songs” playlist that he and I made together. He shakes his head, “No.” The doctor asks G if he wants him to take the breathing tube out of his nose. He shakes his head, “No.”

The doctor comments, “Wow, I’ve never had anybody say that they don’t want the tube out before!” Giacomo keeps shaking his head. I see him raise his right fist in the air, something he does when he’s angry and is often followed by the statement, “You’re violating my rights!!” I see my fears about to be realized at that moment, as my boy is so adamant about not only his wants but his needs.

Then the doctor pulls the tube. They put the nasal mask and BiPAP on. He listens for breath sounds. There are none. Just as I knew there would be the case. He asks me, “Is his breathing normally shallow?” I look at him and tell him, “No. I told you all he can’t breathe through his nose. He’s not breathing.” The Jaw Bra holding his mouth shut slips off as the chaos starts and he gets his mouth open about half a centimeter and finds a hint of breath between his swollen mouth and immobile jaw. The doctor says, “Oh, he’s breathing a little now!” I point out to him that it’s because his mouth is open. His chest barely moves. I look up at his oxygen saturation as it plummets from the 80’s, 70’s, 20’s.

Code Blue.

The button is pushed. The call is made. So many people rush in I can’t even begin to count. They begin to bag him.

“Stay with me, Giacomo!! Stay with me!” I calmly but firmly tell my boy, as the tears stream down my face. He’s not moving. I see him start to give up. I feel him leaving me.

“At what point are you going to reintubate him????!!!” I shout to them. They tell me they are going to now.

They keep bagging him. There is blood coming out of his mouth and his nose as I watch them simultaneously try to save his life and potentially destroy the surgery he has been waiting for and endured so much to prepare for, the one that was supposed to improve his quality of life not take it away. “You need to suction him!” I call out to the team. “You can’t let him aspirate!” They pause from the bagging and suction a little, then back to keeping air in his lungs, lungs that, until moments before were full of air, until they took it all away as a horrible experiment and what will likely be a future training example of what happens when you don’t listen to a patient and their caregiver.

I see the anesthesiologist from Monday’s surgery enter the room, the guy who was able to get a breathing tube down G’s tiny nasal passage, that day, with a great deal of time and patience. We don’t have that kind of time. He briefly tries to get a new tube in his other nostril, but even with his incredible skills and fiber optic camera, everything is too swollen. He grabs the emergency scissors that have been taped at the head of Giacomo’s bed in the event that we needed to cut the rubber bands holding his upper and lower jaws together, as an extra layer of protection to the 10 titanium screws placed during surgery. He looks at me and tells me this is critical and he as no choice but to go through his mouth.

“Don’t leave me, buddy!! Stay with me! It’s not time!!” I repeat these words over and over. I call out to whatever higher power might be listening as I watch my boy keep slipping away. I beg him to come back.

And then the tube is in. His oxygen saturation is back. The chaos begins to calm. The crowd slowly begins to retreat. I step out into the hallway to catch my breath, along with a couple of doctors, both one who pulled the tube and another who assured me it would be “fine” earlier that morning.

“I guess you were right,” one of them says to me. I did not yell or shout. I wiped the rest of the tears from my eyes and this tiger mama, very clearly spoke, in a way that they finally heard.
“I told ALL of you that this would happen as soon as you pulled the tube. I told ALL of you that he is NOT an obligatory nose breather. And you didn’t listen. HE told you not to take it out. And now look at what happened. You have all learned a very valuable lesson here today.”

I have never hated being right more in my entire life.

And what happens now? He is alive. He is sedated. He is back on the ventilator, for an undetermined amount of time, but likely at least a few days, but possibly longer, recovering from excessive amounts of swelling, bleeding, a partially collapsed lung, and the unnecessary trauma of this unfortunate experiment in Giacomo’s respiratory capabilities. People are listening to me, as I have made it pretty damn clear that no one will come near his airway without a plan that helps him in the immediate, short term, and long term, and also maintains the integrity of his surgery and the awesome new jaw they have created for him, so that he can actually live and enjoy it.

I am calling upon every possible provider to get on this team. I have told them that they need to take this unique person, with a rare disease, with unique manifestations and symptoms, who just had a surgery that is rarely done on people like him, and they need to come up with a strategy that will work for all of us, and anything less is just not acceptable. They will take their time. They will continue to listen. They will do this right. Because now it’s their turn.

(And please share this far and wide! This situation happens far too often 😔

Let the graduation commencement celebration vacation commence!!! I’m so grateful for all the love and support from these...
05/14/2026

Let the graduation commencement celebration vacation commence!!! I’m so grateful for all the love and support from these three (plus two), along with so many others, and sooooo thrilled to be back in NOLA!!! Ready for six days of fun, food, friends, and FINALLY being done with school!! Laissez les bons temps rouler!! 👩🏼‍🎓🤩😍💜💚💛🥂👏

Letting go, holding on...Holding on, letting go…That’s what most of life seems to be about, and is most certainly what d...
05/09/2026

Letting go, holding on...Holding on, letting go…

That’s what most of life seems to be about, and is most certainly what death and its subsequent grief entail…

In my situation, once the diagnosis landed, I began that perpetual process...Letting go of a life I had yet to fully envision—expectations of the things my kids would achieve, ideas of what the future would hold, even simple realizations like the fact that I would never experience the joys of becoming a grandmother…

Parts of that letting go were actually quite refreshing—to rid myself (and theoretically them) of the pressures that society places on performance and achievement…Parts of it were sad, as I contemplated experiences and joys that they (and I) would never have…

But, in truth, the “letting go” very quickly was replaced by the “holding on”….Holding on to what we DID have, to the sacred gift of TIME that we were given, and never to be viewed upon again in the cavalier light that nearly everyone shines upon it…Holding on to tender moments, preserved in the resin of memory, laughs and voices that were recorded on the grooves of impenetrable vinyl of the spirit, and simple joys of the ordinary that were seamlessly transformed into the extraordinary through transcendent objectivity and a lens that few are blessed to examine life with…

Though when earthly death showed up on our front stoop, the “holding on” suddenly shifted…The fierce desire to maintain what “was” and not succumb to what had become, a normal and natural human instinct, I believe all would argue…

And with that came the clinging to worldly possessions that no longer meant anything to my cherished offspring, whom I had let go of, in an effort to free them of the pain that their disease had so brazenly bestowed upon them, but somehow now suddenly meant everything to me…

Anyone who has sorted through the clothing and trinkets of their deceased loved one can undoubtedly find camaraderie in the immeasurable disillusion and confusion that accompanies that process…It’s one that requires the utmost grace, patience, and perserverance, and often is never complete, as it’s just not possible to LET GO of some things (says the woman who is presently snuggled up underneath her son’s Star Wars comforter that he wrapped himself in up until the very moment of his final exhalation, wearing her daughter’s pink nightgown that is emblazoned with a turqoise koala bear performing some sort of chemistry experiment, worn on countless occasions, including, but definitely not limited to, her final birthday party, the sweetest of 16s.)

However, there is a point where one must find the balance of holding on, while simultaneously letting go…Letting go of as many items as you possilby can, while holding on to those that are unbearable to part with…

This is a point that I have been in for over three years now, and it is constantly evolving. There are times I make large gestures towards “letting go”, say by sorting through all of Gianna’s clothes, having them all ready to donate to someone who is in need and will appreciate her wide array of colorful leggings and the remainder of her t-shirts that didn’t make the cut for the stunning quilt fabricated out of her clothing, including the little “Welcome to Earth” shirt she wore home from the hospital in June of 2006 and the pink and white striped fuzzy robe that was basically glued to her for the last 5-6 years of her life, and so much in between…But then I stop, for whatever reason…and the remainder of the clothes continue to be trapped in their plastic-bin masoleums in her closet…

Giacomos’ stuff is a different tale, (one to be completely described in the book someday), but it shares a similar paralyzing grip on me…Which is why it has taken me well over a year to complete the task of sorting through his books and puzzles to donate a smattering of them to his old school, a request from one of his teachers that I was more than thrilled to oblige, as I know it’s precisely what he would have wanted, and one that still felt insurmountable to achieve…

Yet, achieve, I somehow did…Finally. This week, I LET GO…a little bit more…

I had designed the memorial stickers months ago, one for each item, reminding those who will be so lucky to enjoy the literary and jigsaw treasures, that they are holding something “Donated from the private collection of our FRIEND, Giacomo Steven Naylor, AKA ‘G’”, in the signature font from one of his favorite shows.

As I was contemplating readiness to plunge forward with my grief, I enlisted Lukas and Isadora to help me sort through his vast array of media and tasked them with placing the memorial labels on each item, a most cathartic part of the process—holding on to each book and puzzle one last time….

And then the dropoff…The REAL letting go…Handed off to one of G’s fabulous teachers, who I truly believe understood the gravity and significance of all that went into the simple, yet insanely difficult act…

I held the tears in until I was back in my car, adding them to the collection that had already fallen from my eyes throughout the indescribable and far-from-over process of letting go…Reminding myself that HOLDING ON to all of their belongings prevents someone else from enjoying them….That my LETTING GO isn’t truly that at all…It’s merely allowing another human to HOLD ON to the incredibly energy and infinite love and curiosity that Gianna and Giacomo embodied during the short, but immensely impactful, time that they were given…It is a necessary and healthy part of the grieving process, even though it is excruciatingly painful at times…

The letting go and holding on...Holding on, letting go…

Just got the official invitation to my own graduation, now two weeks away from donning THE MOST expensive article of clo...
05/03/2026

Just got the official invitation to my own graduation, now two weeks away from donning THE MOST expensive article of clothing I’ve ever worn, in more than one way, and trying on the doctoral tam generated laughs from one child and a “You look like Claude Monet!!” from another…

I’ll take both, as Lukas’s chuckles pair perfectly with my disbelief in the fact that this educational feat has actually transpired, on top of everything else, over the last 3.5 years, and also it’s quite fitting that, in Isadora’s eyes, I’m simultaneously giving a nod to one of the other greats who was captured by the wretched beast of myotonic dystrophy, yet still left a distinctive and timeless mark in the world of art, and hoping that all of my grueling work will ultimately lead to lasting legacy for Gianna and Giacomo (and eventually the other two, when all four siblings are reunited in the outer dimensions.) 💜💫💙💫💚🩷💫💫

As a way to make it through each day, I am constantly shifting my emotions—-sometimes allowing the pain to flood in, and...
04/29/2026

As a way to make it through each day, I am constantly shifting my emotions—-sometimes allowing the pain to flood in, and other times, reinforcing the levees to keep my head (and also those of the people I love) safely above the deluge that is always looming…

Creating my own sentient antipode…

I put on songs that I know will make me cry—namely the acoustic ones that Gianna and I listened to in the final weeks of her earthly life, as a means to keep the vibe of her ICU room as calm as a space full of countless life-sustaining machines and all their insidious beeps can be…Or the ones we listened to in Fortuna, all throughout the thousands of miles of G’s Last Stand, each turn of the axle bringing us one step closer to his inevitable 5th Dimension launch date, and the one that I was listening to precisely when that epic moment took place…

And as a stark contrast, I also gaze at pictures…Sooooooo many pictures….Soooooo many videos….Thousands of them on my phone and computer, each one infinitely sacred and inspiring, a sure-fire way to make me smile, and perhaps even laugh aloud, without a soul around to join me in my delight…

So when I stumbled upon this series comedic pics and a video of the five of us attempting to make a group voyage down the slide at the beach at a lake I have been swimming in since I was a wee lass, all to capture a photo op at the bottom, the latter side of my grief relief was definitely in play, as it’s just not possible for me to be sad when I look at these…

Some of our BEST times together, as a preparatory balm of the WORST imaginable times that were on the way….

(And a bonus repost below of my poem, Antipode, written sometime back in the blur of 2023…Words that remain just as relevant today…)

Antipode

I am here in my physical form,
Yet, my soul is swirling about the tempest.

I am blessed beyond measure,
Yet, perpetually cloaked in and stalked by trauma.

My heart is swollen with gratitude,
Yet, tender and hollowed-out by grief.

I am an inspiration,
Yet, represent every parent’s worst nightmares—plural.

I want to change the world,
Yet, long for its crust to shatter and devour me whole.

My mind is open and curious,
Yet, it is dampened with self-loathing and doubt.

I am hopeful for the proverbial brighter day,
Yet, anchored with the despair of countless lifetimes.

I am rooted in reality,
Yet, swim in a dark, breathless pool of disbelief.

My spirit is full of joy,
Yet, the sadness simmers, ready to boil over without warning.

I am whole,
Yet, endure the juice of a thousand lemons in my compound fractures.

I am more than okay,
Yet, I am so far from okay, I see no mirage.

My body is present,
Yet, I float through the nightmare of each day,

Just waiting to wake up.

This picture popped up in my memories today and instantly made me cry…I didn’t even read the post at first, which ironic...
04/24/2026

This picture popped up in my memories today and instantly made me cry…

I didn’t even read the post at first, which ironically was all about how the five of us had some major meltdowns throughout the day, the four of them at once and then me all alone much later in the evening, in the privacy of my self-created isolation. The post was all about some stupid pandemic-induced, screen-influenced, unnecessary emotional turmoil, wrapped up with chaos that was thrust upon us…

But I wasn’t crying about that memory….Not one bit…

Instead, I was looking at that photo and seeing how genuinely happy the five of us were, before any respiratory illness and digestive failure plagued our little misfit family, a plague that continues, as we will never be out of the woods, that is, until the woods are completely burned down in the absence of my four beloved children, leaving a vast sprawl of ashes in its aftermath...

I look at my own face, grinning with ignorant bliss, despite having cancer that is incredibly visible at the end of my nose, yet a year away from a diagnosis that would lead to seven intense face-altering surgeries and a lifetime of pain that actually has been getting worse lately instead of better, an indicator to me that I will never be free of that trauma until my own eventual earthly demise …

No, I cried because we were HAPPY …That as “hard” as life was perceived to be back then, it was NOTHING compared to what is before me, and there’s no possible way of ever reclaiming that, as it once was… Now just a distant memory, yet excruciatingly present…

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