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Good Tidings Clerical misconduct or abuse is often a harsh reality for many. Victims need support, healing & empowerment.

If his behavior manifests itself as abuse: sexual,physical,emotional, spiritual; it needs to be addressed directly.

🤔Thank you Brendan Watkins - Writer.It’s usually the teenage female or woman who became involved with priests, or became...
04/16/2024

🤔Thank you Brendan Watkins - Writer.
It’s usually the teenage female or woman who became involved with priests, or became mothers of the children of priests, that have raised their own children of priests. The network of a community of those mother’s, close family members and friends are their support and network. Women, finding themselves in intolerable situations with seminarians and priests used to have no network, they survived out of sheer determination as a solo parent to provide for their child (children). Fortunately, across the world, these varied networks of caring persons exist! 💖💗💞💔💓✝️🕊️☮️.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/n5i6fb48p1SV9sdJ/?mibextid=WC7FNe

The women who have children to priests are unacknowledged victims of both the priest and church. https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/no-filter/brendan-watkins-son-of-a-priest-and-a-nun/

Meeting Saturday March 2, 2024 (London time) UTC/ GMTTWO TIMES 9:00AM  also 3:00PMTwo times to cover the world!Attend on...
02/28/2024

Meeting Saturday March 2, 2024 (London time) UTC/ GMT
TWO TIMES 9:00AM also 3:00PM
Two times to cover the world!
Attend one or both meetings!
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*LEADERS:Presence Tarika Brandt.
(Child of a priest)
Theresa Engelhardt
(mother of a priest’s child)
*MEMBERS:
*Women involved with a priest.
**Mothers of priest children.
***Children of priests.

*RULES: Respect. Courtesy. No alcohol. No bashing people or negative talk.

****Every person equal in their time , each respectful while on zoom meet.

*****ZOOM format: Microphone one person at a time
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*We can use shadow and off video to not show your face. You may use an alternative name if you choice.

AGENDA:
*Collaboration with other similar support organizations
*Pod casts:
Uploads onto YouTube, GoodTidings website
(Good Tidings FB page)
(Holy Innocents FB page)-Pvt grp
Child of a Priest FB page
Coping International (?)
Title:
*Child of a Priest
*Mother of a child of a priest
*Woman involved with a priest

What are your goals?
(Individual break out groups)
Recognition by Vatican:
*Recognition as children of priest
*Right to have access to their father and paternal family.
*Streamline process for children to be recognized
*DNA verification for children
*Mental Health concerns

*Resources data base open access
*To websites, groups, bibliography resources, biographies, interviews, radio, TV, *Podcasts

*Emmanuel Kiki -podcast
*Italian media-requests priest fathers to interview
*Yani Bille (child of a priest) documentary
*London investigative reporter-Women, Mothers, Daughters
*UN presence-(group of members to represent) Violations of Vatican Against Children’s Rights
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*QUESTIONAIRE FOR CLINICAL STUDY - please complete and submit to GOOD TIDINGS WEBSITE

*Mini- short podcast summary
Link to complete interview
*Use all methods of media.

All platforms:

Internet
“X”
Threads
Instagram
Tic-Toc
Platforms.
Websites
Groups
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Provide your book titles so we can post them. Short summation of your book.
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Meeting for adult children of Roman Catholic priests/ clergy 2/12/24- [ ] Tonight 2/12/24 9pm -10:30pm (New York) EST TI...
02/12/2024

Meeting for adult children of Roman Catholic priests/ clergy 2/12/24

- [ ] Tonight 2/12/24 9pm -10:30pm (New York) EST TIME.

Sorry for short notice
Preliminary meeting to discuss shared concerns. Meet other adult children. Plan strategies. Platforms. What are your goals?
Time differences vary.

COLLABORATION IS KEY

Respect. Courtesy. No alcohol.
No bashing people or negative talk.

Let’s start. Let’s plan. Let’s discern who has what skill sets.

- [ ] Background
Other adult children happened to meet in chat room hosted by Presence Tarika Brandt

Meeting tonight is in ENGLISH
If someone wishes to translate to Spanish that’s good. Or to German or Filipino it’s all good.

This is a meeting with topics and purposes decide by members.
You decide the directions you want to move in.

Good Tidings Ministry will supply the Zoom Room.

Theresa Engelhardt to moderate

Emmanuel Kiki-g Mabe
With be lead tonight.

Brendan W. , Linda Kelly-Lawless, Paras, Ohuru , Erebon , Michelle
Please join in to assist as needed

This is new to me (Tess)!I will need your patience and positive energy/ prayers that this get off well!

This is basic room information:

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Meeting ID: 513 671 0896
Password: PangurBan
One tap mobile
+19292056099,,5136710896 #,,1 #,592695 # US (New York)
+13017158592,,5136710896 #,,1 #,592695 # US (Germantown)

Dial by your location
+1 929 205 6099 US (New York)
+1 301 715 8592 US (Germantown)
+1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
+1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose)
+1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
+1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
Meeting ID: 513 671 0896
Password: 592695
Find your local number: https://us02web.zoom.us/u/kYnvW0NW9
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🤔 After reading this article I thought this was an excellent read, yet there is so much more to explore. It leaves me wi...
02/04/2024

🤔 After reading this article I thought this was an excellent read, yet there is so much more to explore. It leaves me with yet more questions about the path for the Roman Catholic Church regarding vocations to the priesthood, the changing needs of the faithful.
Through my lifetime I have met women that felt called to the vocation of Roman Catholic priesthood, men who had declined their want to become a RC priest because of the celibacy(to refrain from the state of marriage) rule, also those that found the love and left active priesthood to marry, or those quietly lived a life in parallel as priest, yet a man committed to his love,wife and children.
Then again, there are those men, and women, who struggled to discern their relationship as it manifested, some had concurrent or serial relationships with women, and some had the responsibility of their own children to raise.
This thought: what about the women who became involved, their children (and perhaps her children from a prior marriage) how did these pries having personal and often intimate relationships affect them?
Pondering, is it not a natural consequence that the ramifications of all of the Roman Catholic clericalism and deceitful practices have finally come into it own time of reckoning and life span? After all, how much can one person, a child, a family, “friends in the know” endure after being discarded or living in the shadows, or aware of the injustices experienced? Truly our communities and governments take on a hefty responsibility in addressing the consequences of such a damaged congegassion of affected faithful believers by providing counseling services, offering food stamps, affordable housing, job placement assistance, school services and mental health support. (Our tax dollars at work.)
All in all, this article only briefly touches this topic of vocations. The relevant topic of misogyny, “Me Too” women’s issues, clerical abuse, reproductive abuse?and migration away from a church that blames victims and hides criminal behavior doesn’t help vocations either.
The once held unwavering respect for men wearing black and a “collar”, our moral leaders, has long since gone by the wayside since so many varied revelations of clerical abuses have been reveled in the media. (Other religious denominations too.)
Yes, I smiled when it posed the idea of home church and the people of the church taking ownership of how they thought to grow and nurture their church. The mere thought that the future of the church be in the “hands of the people”! Isn’t the church really about the people after all? “Where two or more are gathered, I am there.”(Matthew 18:20)
So, being curious, enjoy this article and let’s discuss in the comments!! Please share your thoughts and ideas too. ☮️🕊️
https://catholicherald.co.uk/irelands-vocations-crisis-reflects-lack-of-initiative-and-evasion-of-issue-by-church/?fbclid=IwAR2Btx8tiDMcup9WtcNBQV3PD_7tta5hCrZcoKRnisK7LvG9UtS37YVHJC8_aem_AcKPmbwFNNbsq0QlP-_kWchBfdrwlZgGBEbdjyy4YeOHqPDPIWrAOh1iO41f3_dFvkc&mibextid=2JQ9oc

Ireland's vocations crisis reflects lack of ‘initiative’ and ‘evasion of issue’ by Church.

🤔I thought this an excellent article. I’ve never heard of this magazine. Certainly, IMO, if you perform an illegal act, ...
01/22/2024

🤔I thought this an excellent article. I’ve never heard of this magazine. Certainly, IMO, if you perform an illegal act, you claim that title and jail time. The Roman Catholic Church has depended on social shunning, oppression, intimidation, spiritual abuse, obstruction of justice, ALL OVER THE WORLD for centuries.
Whether you are a Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Moslem or Christian Science; IMO, (in my opinion), if you do the crime, you do the time.
Be accountable. Shame on these men (and women)that were supposed to be moral leaders in society.
Let the chips fall as they may. ☮️

https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/lets-call-out-dirty-old-men-again?fbclid=IwAR3G0y0yN3tCafN8gSODvPa_ME8jWktJeVz6U0jA_Rg6zxaHC66VTGCRnfk_aem_AeyaRmnKeBGOsFIkgVa9f83CgOjiAz1doiW8izSDfl73-3LLccpqiblYvlqBVbvvTxU&mibextid=2JQ9oc

One cannot speak against the acts that used to be called deviant and perverse because those very acts are being mainstreamed and normalized by all the powers that be.

“Yourself The Fool”Song:   written/ composed/ sung by Rev. Cait Finnegan“Yourself, the Fool” Get up now dearand leave me...
12/28/2023

“Yourself The Fool”
Song: written/ composed/ sung by Rev. Cait Finnegan

“Yourself, the Fool”

Get up now dear
and leave me here
Me and the child within
You can run
from your own son
but one day he’ll know your sin.

We both must know
before you go
this child deserves much more
for the true sin
will just begin
when you walk out the door.

chorus

You will miss
his tender kiss
and never know his touch
or hear him say
on one sweet day
“I love you Dad, so much.”

chorus

Your whole life long
you’ll regret this wrong
as you try to serve your God.
You’ll say your Mass
but time will pass
then you’ll grow old and nod.

And remember when
our priests were men
before this Roman rule.
When you grow old
with heart so cold
you’ll think yourself the fool!

For you lived your life
without your wife
because of a Roman law
and you gave your heart
then fell apart
because of the child I bore.

chorus

So think this through
and as you do
consider this child we made.
Love your son
or the day will come
you’ll wish that you had stayed,
you’ll wish that you had stayed.

Get up now dear
and leave us here
me and this child within.
You can run
from your own son
but one day you’ll know your sin,
one day you’ll know your sin.

Roman Catholic priests who abandon their responsibility to their children hide behind Church laws and mandatory celibacy--only after ignoring those laws and ...

“Feast of the Holy Innocents, Christian feast in remembrance of the massacre of young children in Bethlehem by King Hero...
12/28/2023

“Feast of the Holy Innocents, Christian feast in remembrance of the massacre of young children in Bethlehem by King Herod the Great in his attempt to kill the infant Jesus (Matthew 2:16–18). The feast is observed by Western churches on December 28 and in the Eastern churches on December 29.”

“HOLY INNOCENTS”
(Support group for children of Roman Catholic Priests)
(Goodtidingsministry.net)
(Theresa Engelhardt: Moderator for group)

Many years ago, in the early 1980’s we began hearing from pregnant women and new mothers of priests’ children. The stories were unique in that each woman and priest is unique, but the stories all had similar themes of fear and often anger on the part of the priests, and so often a mixture of fear and love on the part of pregnant women and new mothers who were recognizing they were alone after having trusted that the love professed was not real, or, if real, not strong enough to face life as adult men and human fathers of holy and innocent children.��We realized, just as we did for those women who were involved with priests (who were not pregnant or mothers), we had to offer peer support and access to a network of counselors and legal options. Thus the network of Holy Innocents began for women who were pregnant or already mothers, and who felt they were alone in the world to face motherhood, and the scorn–rarely the support–of the clergy, hierarchy, and sadly often family.��Not unlike biblical stories, these women were metaphorically stoned by religious leaders in the institutional Church. The secret and suffering lasts a lifetime, all the while loving and providing to her best ability for the innocent child.
On these pages we will introduce you to the mothers of priests’ children. Many were forced to sign hush agreements if they wanted any child support from the institutional Church which protected the priest-fathers legally and physically, so they were not held personally responsible to raise their children. In most cases, those priests who had no integrity were and are allowed to remain in active ministry while the mothers and children struggle to survive, often shunned by family and parish. This is a far cry from those thousands of priests who, loving a woman, honored her, himself and their love by marrying, rather than feigning celibacy with a disregard for the Chastity which binds all Christians. ��We will interview some of these mothers, and let them tell their stories. We will let the children speak when they wish to share their stories.��We will interview those priests who made the CHOICE for integrity and honest and respect, and who loved and raised their children creating priest-families in the long-held Apostolic Tradition of married priests.��Many women are abandoned when they become pregnant with a priest’s child.
NO EXCUSE FOR ABUSE!

Check back here as we add these interviews and pictures of the Holy Innocents.
Administrator: Cait Finnegan-Grenier
(Song composed and written by
Rev. Cait Finnegan)

https://youtu.be/sR3h3cXpvDc?si=DjTFWUz5yq-yEhiT

Our Mission Good Tidings was founded in 1983 to give support to women and priests who were involved in romantic relationships. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We intend to help priests and the women they love to discern before God what their relationship is and should be. This may be a celibate or marital r....

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