08/09/2026
EDITED- Atheisting in the park, again: Much better this week. Had lots of good conversations. The first guy I talked to was fun, well for me anyway. He started with the Bible is historically accurate. One of the most annoying things believers do, besides just being ignorant. Id their state of denial. I explained that most of the Bible is not history. And then showed him why. But I also showed him how some parts are history and how we know that. It really gets annoying when it gets laid out in detail how historians do their job. And the believer asks me how do I know the Bible is not true? 𤦠Dude, I just told you. Were you not listening. Even gave him some homework- Michael Grant: A Historians review of the Gospels. Then he moves on to morals. Atheist and the Bonobos by Franz De Waal answers a lot of these questions. He brought up obedience. I explained Euthyphro's dilemma. He couldn't understand how obedience is not morals. He kept blaming humanity for all the bad things. Could not let his god have any of the responsibility for what it made. At one point he couldn't understand how I can complain about god if I don't believe in it. He literally said "I thought you didn't believe in god?" I had to explain that I was addressing the stories. The same thing as complaining about Joffrey in Game of Thrones. Then making fallacious arguments. I explain, in detail the problems. They always deny it.
We talk to a lot of ignorant people. The funny thing is that often they will say they don't know a lot about "X", and when you point out their ignorance they get offended. This was Travis. He even, several times, said he knows nothing. Tommy jumped all over that. Travis bring up the flood story. My favorite. I explain the problem from a geological, mythological, internal problems. And he doesn't understand why his Bible doesn't carry more weight? 𤦠Second time today. I just explained it in detail what the problems are with the Bible and realty. 'but, but, but, I believe.' We tried, unsuccessfully, to help him understand the difference between magical thinking and critical thinking.
A gentleman stopped by. I told him to take a few of the 'safe' buttons we give away. He told me I was a good atheist, and he was an evil atheist. We both laughed.
We sure have some goofy conversations when just talking among ourselves. We talked about Pluto, our fur babies, politics (ugh), movies, cannibalism, astrology vs theology (They are the same thing. In that they are both just made up)
Talked with a very friendly family from Mexico. I don't know why be that was kind of surprising. Nice though. Very intelligent. We discussed people getting more fanatical.
The last family that talked to us. I think we surprised the teenager that was asking the questions. We gave him a lot to think about.
edit - - (EDIT) From John: ""August 8, 2026 Several of us spoke with a family of four. Mom, Dad, teenage son and daughter. Their son was mid/late teen, daughter a few years younger. Son was leading the conversation and was curious about our belief/non belief. Asked if belief in religion was harmful in any way.
Rob, Alex and I each provided a different example of potential harm. Next: āDo you believe the biblical stories/why not?ā Again, we all stated strange/contradictory/cruel and unjust examples to not trust the stories. Rob and I both suggested reading about similar myths prior to the Hebrew Bible.
I mentioned historical accounts of Horus (writings of Plutarch) for similarities to Jesus claims.
Alex stated the Hebrew exodus did not happen. Complete absence of material waste, no graves or human remains. Rob cited scholarly papers by Jewish archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and Professor, independent archaeologist Yoni Mizrahi as support.
Alex explained that appropriating older stories, like the Bible most certainly did, is a behavior that humankind has always used to provide validation of ideas to a different audience Copying ideas was and is a standard practice.
Entire family was very attentive and the parents were encouraging both kids to ask questions. We all let them know they were doing a great job of parenting.
I later spoke with mom and dad at the board and discussed the QOTD for a moment. Tommy spoke with them and congratulated them on being such great and supportive parents. Whole family was nominally Christian. I found out they were from Oklahoma. They were staying on Coronado Island. So a very different environment than they were familiar with. They love it and plan on returning. I suggested that information from Seth Andrew and Forrest Valkai might interest them. Both Seth and Forrest are also from Oklahoma.
They stayed for close to an hour before it was time for them to be off for dinner. Thanks all around and said when the comeback to SD, the booth will be on their list.""
From Wes: ""Eh, I didnāt really have anything this time other than āI got to pet a very friendly dog for a long timeā š
Oh āand got to listen to Tommy and Iran talk a bunch while people watching.ā"
From Carlos: ""We are so spoiled. Like we have amazing weather all year round. A little hot, but beautiful. I got there late and Rob was knee-deep in a good conversation with a theist that has never read the bible, apparently. Those types just make me facepalm. It was relatively quiet and little foot traffic. We had a couple good groups of conversations. A 10y/o and his father walked up. After a couple minutes I could tell they were atheists. But the boy wanted to ask some questions, and they were good for his age. Dad appreciated what we are doing and gave his kid a $20 to donate to us. After that it went really quiet, so we debated about which Nicolas Cage movies are good. It was a hilarious convo. A couple of very nice women talked to us but very xtian. We had an agreeable chat. Yet, she did want to cite some scriptures. Which does nothing for me. A few other groups talked to us. Then when we started to pack up, a family of four, very xtian, and super nice stopped by. The son, a teenager was quite honest and genuine with his questions, in order to see what atheists think. It was a good talk, but we have too many chefs that want to jump in and talk. Other than that, and as usual, fun day.""
From Wayne: ""Another very good day at the booth, with many interesting discussions among ourselves and a long and interesting set of discussions with a Christian visitor, Travis. Tommy and I talked with him at first, but it soon became a booth-wide discussion. Tommy explained his type of Satanism to him but it took Travis a while to understand that they believe Satan is NOT real. I talked a little about my being religious in my youth, United Methodist, it wasn't unpleasant for me, and I grew out of it as I reasoned about it (and sometimes had discussions/debated with my Sunday school teachers). In talking with Travis, we learned that he does not accept Evolution and many of us explained how the evidence for it is overwhelming, etc. Later we all were discussing 'critical thinking' and how various aspects of that are important for all people, etc. Near the end a couple of us talked with Travis's wife who had returned and she was pleasant too and said she didn't mind waiting for him.""
We did get a lot of conversation over the QOTD. For some strange reason, believers want to alleviate god of any responsibility for something He created. And yeah buddy do they get made when it gets pointed out that that is an abusive relationship.
This week was way better than last week š yay