06/14/2026
Atheisting in Balboa Park: Started out super slow today. We figured out that people were at the county fair, probably. Didn't get the first visitor until just after noon. He was a 14yo Mormon kid. His basic argument was 'faith.' He didn't stay long.
Holy s**t do we get some real, um, lets just say, odd people? So this guy walks up and asks Carlos about "believing in science." Carlos gives a standard answer- I don't 'believe in' science. I accept it as the best explanation. The guy didn't understand what he meant. Thought Carlos was saying he believe in anything. Before Carlos could explain, the guy goes Gish galloping all over the place. And saying a bunch of nonsense. When asked about his definitions on belief, Christianity, atheism, etc. He had his own definitions. And they didn't make any sense. Not an easy person to talk to. Not to mention, he had a very condescending laugh when we challenged or questioned what he was saying.
Super nice conversation with a lady from Sierra Leone. We talked about a wide variety of things. I brought up how the Wodaabe women do the choosing for their men. And in Nepal, practice fraternal polyandry—a tradition often associated with the Mahabharata's Draupadi. One woman can marry up to five brothers. This idea come from the Mahabharata epic, where Draupadi was married to the five Pandava brothers. I love it when I get to talk about non-Biblical history. 🙂
Another couple showed up. You know it is going to be fun (sarcasm intended) when the conversation starts "We are not here to argue." Nope, they didn't want to argue. They wanted to preach. They couldn't understand that we have heard this argument 100 times before. And have a different take on it. When Carlos asked the guy specifically 'how do you tell the difference between god and not god?' The guy tells us about his 'experience.' We interrupted the guy telling him 'you didn't answer the question. And why it wasn't an answer. But he couldn't comprehend what we were trying to tell him. Then Wayne talked to the guy and I talked to the lady (see below) A lot of the time I have to really 'dumb down' my explanations on history. I can easily bring up things the average person doesn't know about when talking about History. So when I mention something like the Gallic wars by Julius Caesar. And the person says they are familiar with it. I go into detail. Then find out what they meant was that they heard the name before. What I use as an example of 'maybe/ maybe not' history. Caesar claims a village rebelled against him. So he cut off all the men's hands and turned them loose. There is no historical evidence for this. Historians put this in a could have happened- pending evidence. Then compare this to Herod slaying all the children. Possible. But no evidence. Stuff like this gives people a better idea of how historians do history.
We have some of the best talks while waiting for guests to show up. We talked a lot about actors and different roles they play. And who or favorite Dr. Who actor was.
In other words, this makes for another great day at the park.
From Carlos:
Wow!! Busy day. Many convos and now I can’t remember them. Another beautiful day in San Diego. A young 14 y/o kid approached telling us he wants to explain that god was a man (from our QOTD). He tried, but he was just regurgitating what he learned from Mormonism, that he divulged. He seemed like a smart kid tho. Next was one of our funny arguments where words don’t mean words. He was extremely cognitive dissonant. Turned out to be a frustrating talk. A younger (20s) couple approached. The guy just wanted to tell us his personal experience and did not want us to go to hell. His wife was the same. He stated that the exact moment that he prayed for a woman to be the love of his life, she “appeared”. That’s when it got even more frustrating. I asked more questions that he just dodged. So Wayne took over with him and Rob talked to the wife. She was a handful and projected a lot. Saw my little buddy Reef, he’s four and just loves to talk to me. Had other good positive convos, but having brain farts and can’t remember them all. The highlight of the day was seeing Tony Hawk. Saw him skating around the fountain. Nobody really noticed. I was fan-boying out. He’s a legend. I called out his name and he nodded. Then tons of people started to approach him for selfies. I got one too. One of the best days at the booth in a while, as far as the great conversations.
From Wayne: Another very good day at the booth, with fellow booth folks at first, then various group discussions. A fun discussion in particular was with a young christian couple, especially when the young man and I broke off to a side conversation. By being concise, he and I could listen to each other and discuss various topics. He had been saying how he prayed to find a woman and then he and she found each other, so I started out by pointing out that divorce is often the right thing for people but my wife and I found each other over 50 years ago and we're both atheists. Then in talking more I found out that he's a young earth creationist, so I gave him our evidence for evolution handout, and we discussed some of those points (agreeing to disagree). He referred me to Kent Hovind and I told him about PZ Myers' blog (hope he looks for it). We discussed various topics but I think he understood my point of view a bit too. I got to use my "Maybe God created the universe and then was no more...maybe She died giving birth to the universe" and he did get that and smiled.
We didn't expect to get much traffic for the question today.