05/14/2026
We all create systems to survive chaos.
But survival isn’t the same as healing.
In Episode 20 of the Return to Heart Podcast, Jeff and Phil explore how trauma shapes the brain, why we cling to control and coping systems, and how Jesus invites us into real connection and freedom.
Healing happens when we are fully known.
Listen now:
https://youtu.be/Mf4fMz_oUyY?si=PjAg8QLeIT1xui-n