Carthage VFW Post #5117

Carthage VFW Post #5117 Carthage VFW and Canteen. The VFW has a full Bar and Dining Hall with kitchen. Dining Hall is available for rent please call
217-357-2210.

05/31/2026

We would like to thank everyone involved in our 250 American celebration at our post last night. Thank you to our great community for your support of our veterans! Sequoia Drive was great! We will definitely have you back. 19th Hole food truck had great food. I must say the best pork burger I’ve ever had!! I can’t tag everyone sorry. To Jenny Shoemaker for putting this together and making it happen. Jenny started planning our event in January and worked her butt off to make it happen! Dennice was our celebrity bartender last night she killed it behind the bar with Jenny.

05/31/2026

This is so spot on!! Yes I copped from a veteran group.

A lot of veterans, and honestly a lot of civilians too, do not understand VA disability.

One of the biggest misunderstandings is this:

“How can someone be 100% Permanent and Total and still work?”

That question comes up all the time, and it usually comes from people confusing VA disability with Social Security Disability or workers’ comp. They are not the same thing.

VA disability is not based on whether you are working or not working.

VA disability is compensation for injuries, illnesses, and conditions that were caused by, made worse by, or connected to your military service.

That is the key part.

It is compensation for service-connected damage.

It is not a paycheck for being unemployed.

It is not welfare.

It is not “free money.”

It is not the VA saying, “You are incapable of doing anything in life.”

It is the government compensating a veteran for the long-term impact of military service on their body and mind.

There is a huge difference.

A veteran can be rated 100% disabled by the VA and still be able to work, own a business, raise a family, coach sports, go to the gym, travel, volunteer, or live a productive life.

That does not mean they are not disabled.

It means their disability does not always look the way people expect it to look.

And that is where people get ignorant real quick.

They think if someone is disabled, they should look broken 24 hours a day. They expect a wheelchair, a cane, missing limbs, or someone who never leaves the house.

But that is not how disability works.

A veteran may look fine at the grocery store and then be down for two days afterward.

A veteran may be able to work, but only because they have built their entire life around managing their conditions.

A veteran may run a business because they cannot survive in a normal 9-to-5 environment anymore.

A veteran may be able to smile in public while dealing with migraines, sleep apnea, anxiety, PTSD, depression, chronic pain, vertigo, shoulder injuries, back problems, knee problems, nerve pain, stomach issues, hearing loss, tinnitus, or medication side effects behind closed doors.

But apparently if someone smiles in a Facebook photo, the internet medical board suddenly declares them cured.

Come on.

Here is what 100% P&T actually means.

The “100%” means the VA has rated the veteran’s service-connected conditions at the total disability level under VA rules.

The “P” means Permanent.

The “T” means Total.

Permanent does not mean the veteran can never have a decent day.

Total does not mean the veteran has to sit in a recliner forever and stare at the wall.

Permanent and Total means the VA believes the veteran’s service-connected conditions are severe and are not expected to substantially improve.

That is it.

Now, here is where people really get mixed up.

There are different ways a veteran can be paid at 100%.

A veteran can be 100% schedular. That means their actual VA ratings combine to 100% under the VA rating system.

A veteran can also be paid at the 100% rate through Individual Unemployability, often called TDIU or IU. That is different. IU is for veterans whose service-connected conditions prevent them from maintaining substantially gainful employment.

That distinction matters.

A 100% schedular veteran can generally work.

A veteran receiving Individual Unemployability has work limitations because their benefit is based on being unable to maintain substantially gainful employment due to service-connected disabilities.

Those are not the same thing, even though both can pay at the 100% rate.

This is why people need to stop making blanket statements like, “If you’re 100%, you shouldn’t be working.”

That is just not how VA disability works.

Also, VA math is its own weird little circus.

A veteran does not just add up ratings like normal math.

For example, 50% plus 50% does not equal 100% in VA math. Because of course it doesn’t, because apparently regular math was too easy.

The VA uses a combined rating system based on the idea that each new disability is calculated against the remaining “non-disabled” portion of the veteran.

So a veteran may have multiple serious conditions that combine to 80%, 90%, or 100%, even though no single condition alone is rated 100%.

A veteran could have several conditions that affect sleep, mental health, mobility, pain, balance, digestion, hearing, and daily function.

They may still work.

They may still show up.

They may still push through.

But pushing through does not mean the damage is not real.

It means they are doing what veterans have always done: adapting, masking, and carrying more than most people will ever see.

And let’s be honest, many veterans work because they have to.

Bills do not care about your disability rating.

Kids still need food.

Mortgages still show up.

Insurance still costs money.

Life does not stop just because your body or mind took a beating in service.

Some veterans work because they need income.

Some work because they need purpose.

Some work because sitting at home makes their mental health worse.

Some work because they are wired to contribute.

Some work because they have no choice.

That does not make them frauds.

It makes them human.

Now, should fraud be investigated?

Absolutely.

If someone lies, fakes conditions, buys bogus paperwork, or uses shady companies to game the system, they should be investigated. No problem there.

But do not confuse fraud with a veteran having a good day.

Do not confuse fraud with a veteran owning a business.

Do not confuse fraud with a veteran being able to work.

Do not confuse fraud with a veteran refusing to let their disabilities completely control their life.

There are veterans walking around with ratings you would never guess by looking at them. That does not mean the rating is fake.

It means you are seeing the public version of that veteran, not the private cost.

You are not seeing the bad nights.

You are not seeing the appointments.

You are not seeing the medication.

You are not seeing the panic attacks.

You are not seeing the migraines.

You are not seeing the CPAP machine.

You are not seeing the joint pain.

You are not seeing the vertigo.

You are not seeing the depression.

You are not seeing the years of wear and tear.

You are not seeing what their family sees.

So before judging a disabled veteran because they work, smile, go on vacation, coach a game, mow their yard, or post a picture having a good day, maybe understand the system first.

VA disability is not about whether a veteran can still function.

It is about what service cost them.

And some of those costs last forever.

This year we are proud to announce we raised enough money to send 4 of our members to state convention and to pay for th...
05/14/2026

This year we are proud to announce we raised enough money to send 4 of our members to state convention and to pay for their shirts!! We want to say a huge thank you to our community for all your support!!! Our post has great things going on. Stay tuned for up coming events!

Our post does have a canteen in it but we ask everyone to remember it is not a bar. We are getting more and more involve...
05/12/2026

Our post does have a canteen in it but we ask everyone to remember it is not a bar. We are getting more and more involved with our community and we are seeing more support from our community to our organization.

05/11/2026

We are pleased to announce that the Hancock county VAC now has an accredited VSO that can file claims and do many other things for our county veterans and families. Our VSO is located in the VFW located at 29 N Madison st, Carthage Il. Iris Miller is the VSO contact phone number is 815-973-5771, email address is [email protected] These services are free.

04/15/2026

Hancock county VFW Post #5117 has a new jukebox!! The new stste of the art AMI was installed on Monday. It will take time to learn and if you had touch toons before it will not work with the new jukebox. This will be a new app to install on your phone if you wish to play music from your phone. If you do not see a song you like to listen please write it down anc give to bartender so we can reach out and ask for it to be added.
Thank you!! We do not own the rights to this music. This artist is a new up coming artist Jaden Decker!! Look out Cpuntry music lovers here's you a new one to listen to!

04/11/2026

Don't forget the paint and sip today starting at noon till when ever you are done. We have extras so you can still come and paint as long as you are here today by 4 to start. $25 each thing you want to paint.

03/23/2026

Hancock county VFW Post 5117 members, the nomination slips for 25-26 officer slips are at the canteen. Show the bartender your membership ID and fill out your nomination slip. The bartender will put it in the envelope. Nomination are open till April 17th. Voting will be April 18th at our monthly meeting. District 8 meeting is April 19th in Bushnell. We need a head count before April 5th.

Paint and sip day at the Hancock County VFW post 5117. April 11th starting at 12 noon. We have limited space and limited...
03/05/2026

Paint and sip day at the Hancock County VFW post 5117. April 11th starting at 12 noon. We have limited space and limited designs send me your name and what design. $25 to paint your door hanger. Text or message Iris Miller 8159734786. Please reserve your spot by April 5th.

01/22/2026

Due to weather Hancock County VFW post 5117 will not be having Bingo Friday night and Craft day has been rescheduled. We will announce new craft day soon. We are open for warming station.

Thank you, Iris Miller
Commander
815-973-4786

Address

29 N Madison Street
Carthage, IL
62321

Opening Hours

Monday 4pm - 12am
Tuesday 4pm - 12am
Wednesday 4pm - 12am
Thursday 4pm - 12am
Friday 4pm - 1am
Saturday 4pm - 1am
Sunday 4pm - 12am

Telephone

+12173572210

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