Berne NY History

Berne NY History name says it all

01/17/2022

this is not a business

01/17/2022

I don't know why someone called it the Zeh House. Here is what I have on it:

The Jacob Settle House.

Built between 1831 and 1854

1866 map: J. Settle

Current Owners: Schimmers

Current address 1641 Helderberg Trail



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On the 1787 Van Rensselaer map of the Hilltowns all of the land now in the hamlet of Berne to the west of Fox Creek was leased by William Henry Ball, grandson of the early settler (John) Peter Ball.

In 1831, on the first survey map of Bernville, Lot 11 on Beaver street, which is now 1641 Helderberg Trail, was vacant. It was the last house going south on Beaver street which started at the intersection of what is now Helderberg Trail and Berne -Knox Road. Beaver street turned west at what is now Irish Hill Road which continued to the south.

An 1854 map of the Town of Berne shows there was a house in this location under the name of J. Settle. The 1855 Federal Census identifies this as Jacob Settle Jr., merchant. He owned the Settle Store founded by his father who died in 1832. Jacob Jr. may have built the Jacob Settle House shortly after taking over the store after his father died. The 1855 census shows a couple of his sons working as clerks, presumably in the store. The 1866 Beers map of the Town of Berne also shows J. Settle in this location. He probably lived there until he died in 1869. In 1870 Charles H. Settle (son of Jacob) was the proprietor of the Settle Store. He sold groceries, dry goods, crockery, hardware, paints, oils, dye stuffs, clothing, hats, caps, boots, shoes, rubbers, glassware, seed, drugs, medicine, etc. [The 1870-1871 Albany County Business Directory]. I am not sure where he lived.

Asa Smith and his wife Gladys lived here in the 1950s with their children Timothy and Susan. He was transferred to Warrensburg around 1960. He worked in the NYS Conservation Dept. and she taught rug hooking in the BKW School Adult Education Program. Gladys died in 1974. Asa passed away April 10th 1984.

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· Noreen Marie

Noreen Marie Harold Hal Miller Fred Memmott was his name, her name was Martha, I think, they had a young daughter named Wendy. I was in HS so that would be about 1968-1971. They converted the store into apartments. They moved to Delmar, I think. He died many years ago.

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Noreen Marie

Martha Shoemaker. he was Fredrick William Memmott III. They moved from Berne in June 1982 from the Settle House they had occupied for 17 years. While they lived in Berne they turned the store across the steet at the corner intersection of Helderberg Trail and Irish Hill Road into apartments. He died in his sleep August 6, 1985 while on a business trip to Alaska.

Moreen was Martha Shoemaker.

Asa Smith,

Nancy Chickering,



sold to Fredrick William Memmott III.,

Fredrick William Memmott III. sold to Schimmers



Schimmers came later.....

Article I wrote published NY Almanack:Palatines In The Helderbergs: The Zeh and Warner SawmillDecember 26, 2021 by Harol...
12/30/2021

Article I wrote published NY Almanack:

Palatines In The Helderbergs: The Zeh and Warner Sawmill
December 26, 2021 by Harold Miller

The people we call Palatines were displaced during the turmoil of the War of the Spanish Succession (1701-1714). More than 13,000 mostly, though exclusively, Protestant Germans from the Middle Rhine region of the Holy Roman Empire first fled to England.

Known then as “Poor Palatines,” opposition to their immigration resulted in nearly 3,000 of them (about a third the size of the population of the city of New York) being sent to the colonial Province of New York in 1710. Many were forced to work off their passages at at work camps on Livingston Manor. In 1712, more than a hundred other families, sought new lives in the Schoharie Valley, then a frontier between the English, French, and Native People. From there, some moved to the Helderberg Escarpment, in what is now Western Albany County.

In 1787 Stephen Van Rensselaer III had William Cockburn survey his land atop the escarpment. The purpose was to mark 160 square acre lots for lease. The Palatines were already well established on irregular improved lots. A sawmill located at the falls on Fox Creek at Beaverdam (now Berne) was built about 1750 by Jacob Weidman (it is now the site of Pine Grove [modular home] Park).

There was a second sawmill along Fox Creek, described by Cockburn as “a Middling good Lot, Well Watered by the Foxen Kill on which is a fine Sawmill, with a gang of Saws. The Werners & See’s [Zehs] are the Chief proprietors of it. Chiefly Pine & Oak Timber.”

tracing from a part of the southwest part of the Manor of RensselaerwyckThe Warners and Zehs came from the Schoharie Valley, and were likely squatters, as were many early Berne and Knox settlers, on land granted by the Dutch to the van Rensselaer family in 1629.

“H. See” lived on the adjoining Lot 584 to the east. The north part of Lot 565 between Helderberg Trail and Fox Creek was farmed by“Christian See.” The south part of Lot 565, on the south side of Fox Creek, was the farm of “Johannis Werner” as was the east part of Lot 585 just west of what is now Warners Lake. The accompanying illustration does not show the three lots his brother Christopher Warner had on the north side of the Lake.

The 1787 survey map shows “H. Werner” on Lot 581 east part (upper left corner of illustration). Cockburn’s survey notes say,“This land in Lot 581 is very poor and lies chiefly on the north side of a very steep hill. It is well watered by the Foxenkill on the north side of which the land is middling good. Henry Warner has got a part of his improvement on it. Beech, maple some elm and fine timber.”

Lot 582, the survey says: “This is a good lot and is well watered by the Vosenkill [Foxenkill]. Henry Warner has got a framed house and barn and a fine improvement on this lot. Beech, maple, and hemlock timber” A 1790 van Rensselaer record says, “Henry Warner’s property leased. John H. Warner, his son, owns it.”

Some local historians say that a Zeh built the “1795 house” opposite the Hilltowns Senior and Community Center, although van Rensselaer lease records and 1787 survey map indicate the house may have been built before 1787 by Henry Warner.

1866 Albany Co Berne Beers Map1787 all five of Mathias Warner’s sons lived in the area when the Beaver Dam reformed church confirmed his younger son, Philip, who was single and undoubtedly living at home. His father, Mathias Warner, moved his family to Beaver Dam by 1765 and helped build the Warner and Zeh sawmill.

The 1866 Beers map shows an“F. & S. Mil” (Feed and Sawmill) in the same location. In the early 20th-Century the mills were still being used. The millpond dam, flume, and buildings’ foundations are still visible.

The Zeh and Warner family burying grounds were located on the eastern part of the sawmill lot. The earliest known burial was in 1777. A trail was located along Fox Creek between the burying ground and the creek. Cockburn’s 1787 map shows the wagon road that is now Helderberg Trail further north.

Dominie Nicholas Sommer, the pastor of the Lutheran Church in Schoharie, wrote that he ministered in Beaver Dam: “February 1765. I preached for the first time on Johannes Zeh’s house… April 1766 I administered the Lord’s Supper in Beaverdam.” The Zehs and Warners played a role in the 1790 incorporation of the Lutheran Church in Beaver Dam. In July 1797, the church leased lot 564, containing the sawmill and Zeh and Warner family burying grounds. A church was constructed near the cemetery, now known as the Pine Grove Lutheran Cemetery, using planks sawed at the mill.

The 1787 Cockburn survey map shows no homes near the hamlet of East Berne. In 1791 Johannes Werner Sr. leased the 126 acre Lot 546, where the hamlet of East Berne is.

In his 1954 compilation of records, “Descendents of Christopher Warner,” Willis Warner says it was on two acres of this lot that Johannes, in partnership with his brother Christopher built a grist mill. The hamlet that formed around the mill was later known as Warner’s Mill. The name became East Berne in 1825 when the Post Office began.

In 1822 Johannes Warner’s lease on Lot 546 was inherited by his son Johannes Jr. who in 1838 sold it to Lehman Lobdell. An 1854 map shows a gristmill in East Berne owned by Lobdell fed by the outlet for Warners Lake and a sawmill on Fox Creek behind the current East Berne Fire House.

A 1932 NYS Historical Marker, halfway between the two mills in East Berne, is said to identify the location of the 1765 Warners’ mill. However, as Van Rensselaer’s lease records make clear, it was about 1791 the Warners established their sawmill in East Berne. The 1866 Beers map of Berne shows an F & S Mill (Feed and Sawmill) along Fox Creek at the site of Zeh and Warners mill.

11/10/2021
The Johannes Fischer House / Thomas Wood HouseAddress: 28 Stranahan Lane    1787 survey map shows John Fischer    1789 o...
10/28/2021

The Johannes Fischer House / Thomas Wood House

Address: 28 Stranahan Lane

1787 survey map shows John Fischer
1789 or earlier may have been when the current house was built by Johannes Fisher on Lot 614. His father, Piter Fischer, probably homesteaded this farm about 1740. About 1750 he married Dorothea Ball, whose father, Peter Ball b. 1699, may have had the next farm to the west. They were among the earliest settlers in Beaver Dam (now Berne), and settled on choice valley land.
Johannes Fischer House was the site of the first official meeting in 1790 of the new Town of Rensselaerville which then included what is now the Towns of Knox and Berne. Fischer was an innkeeper and he had a store. Farmers bringing their grain to Weidman's Gristmill would buy supplies and spend the night before making the long journey home.
1790 census for Rensselaerville lists Fischer as the owner of 8 slaves, one of the few local families to own slaves. It was generally the earliest settlers, who had settled on the best valley land, who were prosperous enough to afford them.
1811 Fischer died

1826 slavery was outlawed in New York State. The slave quarters and oven still exist. Retha Stapleton, a former Town Historian, said it was a stop on the Underground Rail Road that helped runaway slaves reach their freedom farther north or in Canada. However, Paul and MaryLiz Stewart, founders of the Underground Railroad History Project of the Capital Region, Inc., are of the opinion that the Thomas Wood House was not a UGRR safe house but rather a house that Freedom Seekers would have been advised to avoid.
1854 map of Berne shows J. Wood living in the Johannes Fisher House and also a J. Wood in the Jacob Fisher house across the road, built in 1829 by the son of Johannes. Perhaps John M. Wood, of Dutchess County, owned them both. Col. Wood moved to Berne before his marriage in 1832. Although the 1855 census indicates he was not a property owner, Berne Historical Society records say that his young son, Thomas, inherited a portion of Col. Wood's farm in the 1840s.
1854 map of Berne shows J. Wood living in the Johannes Fisher House and also a J. Wood in the Jacob Fisher house across the road, built in 1829 by the son of Johannes. Perhaps John M. Wood, of Dutchess County, owned them both. Col. Wood moved to Berne before his marriage in 1832. Although the 1855 census indicates he was not a property owner, Berne Historical Society records say that his young son, Thomas, inherited a portion of Col. Wood's farm in the 1840s.
1866 Beers map of Berne shows P. J. Wood in both houses. This was actually Thomas J. Wood, son of John. *Thru the 1950's the road that goes past the driveway to the farm went up the hill toward Knox and Altamont and it was still known locally as Tom Wood's hill. The Wood Family Burying Ground is located on the main road toward Berne and is mowed by town highway crews.
20th Century the house went to a niece of Wood---Shultz?
Then Stranahan,
Current owners: John and Linda Clemmer.

I am pleased to have a second article published in theNew York Almanack https://www.newyorkalmanack.com/When History Is ...
10/27/2021

I am pleased to have a second article published in the
New York Almanack https://www.newyorkalmanack.com/

When History Is Wrong: The Albany Co ‘Dietz Massacre

The Dietz massacre painting is by James Dietz, brother of Captain William Dietz. It is hereby permission of the Greater Oneonta Historical Museum.

In 1984 the old Berne Conservation Board did a very thorough job of locating every cemetery and small family burial grou...
09/18/2021

In 1984 the old Berne Conservation Board did a very thorough job of locating every cemetery and small family burial ground in the township. Each of these cemeteries was keyed to a section of a USGS topographical quadrangle. Several summers ago Dennis and Dave Bernhardt updated that survey and used took GPS coordinates for the 50 cemeteries they could find. Some of these were not found in 1984. They are now updating the descriptions and location information on the Berne Historical Project site at www.Bernehistory.org

I would like to suggest and request that the current Conservation Board or a rejuvenated Berne Historical Society consider making a survey of historic sites to locate and document the conditions of the remains of any historic sawmills and grist mills, bridges, and dam sites. They were scattered all over the town. A starting point would be the 1854 and 1866 maps of the town which showed various grist and sawmills. Like abandoned cemeteries, these abandoned ruins will eventually be lost. It would be good to know exactly where they were before it is to late.

The Berne Historical Project began in 2001 as a means of sharing the history and genealogy of the people of Berne, NY. It has been a volunteer effort started by Ralph Miller, Berne Town Historian and continued by his brother Harold Miller . Our webmasters were originally Gordon an...

Located in the Pine Grove Lutheran Church Cemetery half way between the hamlets of Berne and East Berne
08/15/2021

Located in the Pine Grove Lutheran Church Cemetery half way between the hamlets of Berne and East Berne

Berne has a very interesting and diverse history. It is too bad the official Berne internet site has not only absolutely...
08/09/2021

Berne has a very interesting and diverse history. It is too bad the official Berne internet site has not only absolutely nothing about the history of Berne but it does not even mention the name or email address of the town historian.

Anna B Gibbs Miller (wife of Henry Miller) in front of her Mrs Charles McDermott (Ethel Gibbs) Anna B's sister. Lower ri...
07/31/2021

Anna B Gibbs Miller (wife of Henry Miller) in front of her Mrs Charles McDermott (Ethel Gibbs) Anna B's sister. Lower right Mrs. Verni Shultes.

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