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Good day, y'all! This here is Gideon Menken, once again coming to your screens to educate y'all on a rather unique form ...
10/01/2026

Good day, y'all! This here is Gideon Menken, once again coming to your screens to educate y'all on a rather unique form of motive power from the upper Big Country.

Now, I found these photographs reproduced here for you in a book called "The Quanah Route," covering the Quanah, Acme & Pacific. It and its predecessors were originally built as independent companies, although they were later bought up and reestablished as a Texan subsidiary of the St. Louis-San Francisco system. It was only recently, while reading said book, that I had discovered this road owned the unit pictured here, the -3.

Now, the -3 was a motor car, colloquially known as a "Doodlebug". These were designed to run one or two man crews in order to take over passenger services on both branch and shortline railroads to maximize profits. Passenger service on most railroads was never the money-making side of the railroading business. However, having the ability to only pay 1-2 men; typically only the motorman (engineer) and conductor, as opposed to the additional roles necessary for a steam locomotive as the main motive power were (in some areas,) greatly successful.

In my research of this unit, I discovered that it was originally produced jointly by General Electric, who supplied the gas-electric running gear along with other various electrical appurtenances, and the Wason Manufacturing Company, who produced the main car body and creature comforts. They turned this unit out of the factory in August of 1912 as a model CE70-B11 with a GM16-C1 prime mover.

It was originally numbered Frisco #2113 and assigned to the New Iberia & Northern. It is unclear when exactly it was sold and renumbered to QA&P A-3. However, a note on a roster I found says c6/12 - 1/13. It's rather likely that the later parts of these are month dates and not years, as it was built in August, not June. The author may be unclear on the nature of this fact.

It was during this time on the Quanah Route that it had its picture taken not just once, but twice! Those that were reproduced in the aforementioned book are done so here, as well. They were credited to the respective collections of C.C. Roberts and B.H Stone. The book states that it originally began service pre 1914 on the 10 mile section west of Paducah. Later, in the year 1914, it would provide daily passenger service between Quanah and Roaring Springs.

However, it would not always operate on the Quanah Route, and it returned back to the Frisco as their 2nd #2107 circa 1924, later being renumbered again to their 2nd #2110 in 1927. It finally met its fate in July of 1939, being dismantled and scrapped in Springfield, Missouri.

If anyone has additional photographs of the -3, or any Frisco's GE model CE70-B11's, I'd appreciate it if you shared them in the comments.

Sources:
https://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/entries/quanah-acme-and-pacific-railway

The Quanah Route: A History of the Quanah, Acme & Pacific Railway by Don L. (Donovan) Hofsommer. ISBN-10: 1585440469

Howdy, y'all! Gideon Menken here. Today, we'll be taking a deep dive into one of the several storied locomotives of the ...
07/10/2026

Howdy, y'all! Gideon Menken here. Today, we'll be taking a deep dive into one of the several storied locomotives of the Big Country. Before we get into it, be advised that due to the nature of in-depth research, being concise is nearly impossible, as specific details are of utmost importance, as you'll soon see. So strap in, it's going to be quite the ride!

To begin with, I began this research in preparation for a presentation I will be giving at the Abilene Railroad Festival over the Wichita Valley Railway's locomotives. While researching their engines No. 6 and 7, I ran into a large snag.

The roster of locomotives I was going by, put together by a Mr. Wagner, turned up lacking when I double-checked his information. You see, he describes these engines as being former Manitoba & Northwestern No. 5 and 6, respectively, passing into Wichita Valley ownership in 1907. However, when I checked rosters prepared by Mr. Connelly over the Manitoba & Northwestern, as well as *R&LHS Bulletin #83, they have these same locomotives staying in Canadian territory for their entire working lives, eventually being scrapped around 1922.

I believed I hit a brick wall at this point; feeling rather discouraged. However, I soon remembered I had access to a complete builder's record of the Rhode Island Locomotive Works prepared by the late Robert Lehmuth. It was there I conducted an intensive search of all 1886 standard gauge 2-6-0s made by that company of the general specifications. Initially, I hadn't any luck in conjuring up an alternative match, as when I looked into the closest locomotives, Canada Atlantic No. 9 - 11, they too had a similar fates, never leaving Canadin territory.

It was then, at the last plausible match in the record, that I came across the following. Vicksburg & Meridian #159 - #161, Rhode Island 2-6-0s, construction numbers #1701- #1703, respectively. They were produced in November of 1886, the same year, with 19x24 inch cylinders and 56 ½" drivers. I dug deeper. After less than 3 years in service on the V&M, however, these locomotives passed into Alabama & Vicksburg ownership in March of 1889. And it appears that the A&V got good use out of them, too, as they were retired and sold in and around 1907.

At this point, I was ecstatic and still so remain. These locomotives had the same specifications, same wheel arrangement, same characteristics, and they all had a solid storyline. As I've mentioned, the Wichita Valley purchased these locomotives in 1907, the same time Alabama & Vicksburg were selling these off.

So, now I pose the question to you all. Is it reasonable that the Wichita Valley Railway could have purchased two of the three 1886 Rhode Island 2-6-0s from the Alabama & Vicksburg, either directly or through a dealer? I bring up the dealer at this point because Mr. Wagner has in his roster that these locomotives were purchased by the Wichita Valley from the St. Louis Rail & Equipment Co. What do y'all think? Feel free to share your positions in the comments.

Y'all, thank you for your time and attention to reading this far down in the post. It is rare that I get this close to revealing the mystery of a lost or mistaken identity of a steam locomotive, let alone 2 of them, and very rarely one closely connected to the history of my area.

I have attempted to link and/or include sources and screenshots in the following, and in the included media.

I hope that you have a great rest of your day.

Sources

*Lavallee, O. S. A., & Brown, R. R. (1951). Locomotives of the Canadian Pacific Railway Company. The Railway and Locomotive Historical Society Bulletin, (83), 7–93. http://www.jstor.org/stable/43517622

Edson, W. D., & Corley, R. F. (1982). Locomotives of the Grand Trunk Railway. Railroad History, (147), 42–183. http://www.jstor.org/stable/43520915

The Rail Data Exchange by Allen Stanley for the diagrams, shown here.

Today's celebration reminds us of the not too distant past. This year's celebrations mimic those of our country's 200th,...
07/04/2026

Today's celebration reminds us of the not too distant past. This year's celebrations mimic those of our country's 200th, bicentennial from 1976. Although not as extravagant, we remember those celebrations close to home.

On June 29th, 1976, Ballinger celebrated with the arrival and display of one of Santa Fe's specially painted bicentennial 5700 series locomotives. No. 5701 and its solo passenger car exhibit sat outside the old freight depot at the 8th Street crossing.

The folks here at the Big Country Railroad Historical Society would like to take this moment to congratulate the Souther...
06/21/2026

The folks here at the Big Country Railroad Historical Society would like to take this moment to congratulate the Southern Pine Locomotive Company in acquiring the former Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe / Temple Lumber Company "Prairie" type #1140. Indeed, in this day and age, it appears that the #1140 has been largely forgotten in light of her sisters. We're glad to see it returning home! Once again, congratulations, and good luck!

We at the Big Country Railroad Historical Society wish the San Antonio Railroad Heritage Museum good luck and a warm con...
05/18/2026

We at the Big Country Railroad Historical Society wish the San Antonio Railroad Heritage Museum good luck and a warm congratulations on their acquirement of the former San Antonio & Aransas Pass #260, which used to operate at the Stone Mountain Railroad, in Georgia. We will certainly keep our eyes and ears open for any and all news, as it comes. We thank you for the rescue and later repatriation of this assuredly Texas engine. We wish y'all the best of luck!

How cool is this!?!Howdy y'all! Gideon Menken here, to share with you an item from my collection. Here we have an origin...
04/30/2026

How cool is this!?!

Howdy y'all! Gideon Menken here, to share with you an item from my collection. Here we have an original Texas State Railroad, (TSR) passenger ticket, specifically issued for a member of the Clergy, or church man, for the uninitiated.

For those that don't know, I will let the Texas State Historical Association tell y'all about the original TSR, and how it differs from the one that still operates steam in the Piney Woods, on the very same route dictated on this very ticket, to this day.

"The Texas State Railroad originated as an industrial railway serving the iron foundry operated by the Texas prison system on the penitentiary grounds near Rusk. In 1896 the first five miles of track were built west from North Rusk to haul wood and iron ore to the smelter known as the "Old Alcalde" that had been built by the state of Texas in 1884. In 1903 the prison smelter was expanded, and the railroad was extended five miles to the community of Maydelle. Governor Thomas M. Campbell conceived the idea that it would be profitable for the railroad to become a common carrier, and on April 5, 1907, the legislature approved his request to operate the railroad as a common carrier and to extend the line from Maydelle to Palestine. Regular service began on June 6, 1907, and the line to Palestine was put in service on April 15, 1909... In 1972 the Sixty-first Texas Legislature turned most of the railroad over to the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD) for conversion to a hike and bike trail. However, a group of railroad enthusiasts implored the department to investigate operating a passenger train for tourists. The findings were favorable, and plans for a state park were formulated. Inmates of the Texas prison system were again used to rehabilitate the line, while steam locomotives and other equipment were located in various parts of the country."

This experpt is found at the following website. I hope that y'all learned something, along with us! Have a great day, y'all!

https://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/entries/texas-state-railroad

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