09/19/2026
Entrepreneur, Among Other Things: Why Treat-Based Dog Training Fails And How to Fix Reactive Behavior with guest James Tsai
LINK: Watch my appearance on EAOT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lozp-ADZJls
EPISODE DESCRIPTION: "James Tsai is a canine behavioral expert, author of The Soul of a Dog, and founder of the Arf Arf Bark Bark Rescue Foundation. Specializing in the rehabilitation of extreme, high-arousal aggression and severely traumatized dogs, James rejects modern behaviorism’s reliance on food treats, force, and behavioral euthanasia. Through his revolutionary Parental Protection Protocol, he equips owners to transform dysfunctional behaviors by providing safety, clear boundary setting, and emotional regulation. On this episode of the EAOT Podcast, James exposes the myths of traditional dog training and shares actionable frameworks to help you truly connect with and rehabilitate your dog."
About the host of Entrepreneur, Among Other Things: Alexander V. Johnson is a Founding Partner of Mixt Solutions, a 6x Inc. 5,000 Fastest Growing Company in America. Mixt Solutions has successfully done millions of transactions on Amazon and works with some of the biggest consumer packaged goods brands in the world. In 2024, Mixt Solutions crossed over 200 million dollars in all-time sales on Amazon. Connect with Alexander: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandervjohnson
*Watch the YouTube livestream podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lozp-ADZJls
0:10 Intro by Alexander, host; Entrepreneur, Among Other Things
0:33 Alexander: "Well, James, your bio was very unique. It's like a roller-coaster somewhat. So between you and your family and all the experiences that you've had. So, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself and then I'd like to kind of, as I often do on this show and go back to the beginning, kind of learn how you got into this and where you're hoping to take it."
0:52 My family background. Living "two different cultures" in the 1960s where we were not allowed to intermingle with non-Chinese in Victoria. Growing up in a family with siblings who have extreme intelligence made me see a concept, context or problem as a "stochastic" which made it easier for me to destructure and disaggregate it.
2:40 Alexander: "Do you think that that was like a genetic gift that your parents for some reason had or do you think that was something associated with like the way that you were raised and their focus on, um, intelligence pursuits and schooling?"
2:55 I discuss my perspective as to why any level or degree of intelligence is purely a stochastic and natch, relative to the biological structure's complexity within the specie (*neologism*). The capacity and ability to emotively process is isomorphic at a corresponding dilutive scale (hence "humans domesticated dogs" is wholly illogical). Especially since life derives from a single point of juvenation. Pure random coincidence. Which makes me see circumstances such as nearly dying as a child as "mundane."
For example; "seeing the stochastic" of an extremely dangerous giant dog standing in front of me, unmuzzled, unrestrained and with a profoundly brutal history that includes genuine attempt(s) to kill a person; I'm extrapolating the dangerous dog's dysfunctional behavior in real-time and predictively. The "behavior of one dog" is homogenous for all dogs, regardless of breed. Hence stochastic defaults the existence of 'immutable thresholds' of consciousness a.k.a. behavior. Which I draw a significantly larger mapping model cognizable of behavior as a whole template and individually (relative to evolution). Seeing the "forest and the trees" simultaneously. Thus confining the stochastic within the specie's psychosomatic manifestation semantic. As is with all familial-species.
5:10 Since I don't find my life's experiences as "remarkable" it gives me a greater willingness to be involved in a very dangerous profession; successful rehabilitation of extremely dangerous and human predatory dogs.
5:58 What I learned from almost drowning and being resuscitated.
10:00 What it's like to experience primordial fear and primal fear. Primordial fear is that brief time when you know that you can't escape and survival is likely impossible. Primal fear is when you believe you have plausible options of survival such as recognizing an escape route away from the danger.
10:48 Alexander: "I watched some of the videos for sure."
10:52 Facing an extremely vicious death by a human predatory dog weighing over 150 pounds is extremely intellectually stimulating. It provides me the opportunity to process and quantify a rare rehabilitation opportunity with the top percentile of dysfunctional behavior.
13:12 Being familiar with primordial fear means that I'm not obstructed by the emotions (of being killed by a new intake). This allows me to use the primordial part of my consciousness that would typically waste cognitive energy to overcome fear, and figure out how to calm one's self and escape.
15:10 It's important to know there's no such thing as a "dog whisperer."
16:17 The declaration of "behavioral euthanasia" reflects wholesale miscomprehension. This is always due to the behaviorists afraid of being killed or attacked so they declare "severe psychological distress" which means that the innocent dysfunctional dog is killed. I know this is to scapegoat their inexperience by blaming the dysfunctional dog. I'm rehabilitating vicious predation which is in the top percentile of dysfunctional behavior. This is why knowing what primordial fear is extremely important for any behaviorist to evolve their comprehension.
17:37 The process of learning is very gentle.
18:04 When Walter held his breath he was doing so intentionally to hear if I was breathing. I am forced to pay attention whereas the dog trainer and behaviorist simply declares "behavioral euthanasia" when confronted by such a dysfunctional dog. They move to their next paying client or research project. Hence no primordial learning or dysfunction addressment is generated because the upper percentile are never successfully rehabilitated.
18:54 Alexander: "I learned today that there's a rating scale for dangerous dogs."
19:02 I need to clarify my response to Alexander's statement. The scale he's talking about is VID scale (Viscerally Intuitive Dog) which I used to provide a comparable scale to my work. Especially since my 6/10 is my average intake but is considered by Dr. Ian Dunbar's scale as "Bite level 6" (causing death)...so basically Ian's most dangerous level is an average level of dysfunctional dog for our rehabilitation. Hence "behavioral euthanasia" isn't a real thing for my rescue foundation.
19:09 Alexander: "So how did you begin to decide to not only work with dogs. I think everybody loves dogs. I love dogs. I know a lot of people who would love to work in that field. But then like I'm going to go a step further and like 'just training dogs' is like kind of not what I'm into, I would like to engage with these more dangerous...almost like sort of challenging yourself to move up into more difficult cases?"
19:39 My motivation was due to a personal change. I went from having started two niche businesses to finding out what actually is important in life.
20:40 Alexander: "Yeah, I was going to ask what he did when he (immigrated) because I know a lot of intellectuals, they would have degrees in foreign countries but they wouldn't really like quite transfer or maybe not be as impactful."
20:56 My dad was a university professor in China. He could verbatim a wide swath of academia and was fluent in seventeen languages but was unable to have his credentials recognized here. My dad attempted to enroll in university in the 1960s and was denied.
We discuss family conflicts.
22:21 Alexander: "Is it just like the firstborn son or the firstborn would get the majority of that?" ... "Why would one brother get, you know, the inheritance? And it sounds like your parents were successful and built up good businesses. What's the logic there that only one son or daughter gets it as opposed to spreading it out?"
23:10 That's the problem with primogeniture.
23:58 Alexander: "It makes sense to me especially if you have a physical asset that's hard to break up like a farm let's say. You have a farm and what am I going to do? Is one son going to get a quarter of the land, another son gets a quarter of the land? Before you know it, then they just go, let's just sell it and split the money. And then it's like; well, now we don't have the family farm anymore. So I guess from that perspective it sort of makes sense if you have this nice tangible asset, you pass it to one person as opposed to trying to divvy it up to multiple people. And also, there's probably something to be said there for management. I mean, like you said, lawsuits."
24:46 My oldest brother sued another brother over this exact issue.
28:57 Alexander: "You had a dog attack when you were a kid, is that right?"
29:02 When I was in elementary school, I thought I was going to be attacked by a German Shepherd during a physical education class that was held outdoors.
31:03 When I adopted Lincoln.
33:00 I decided to treat Lincoln like my child. I developed language structure and physical conduct that was comprehensible. It's like being in love with someone who doesn't speak your language. The beginnings of Familialship. Parenting protocols.
35:31 Reset hugs with Lincoln proved to me that predation and dangerous behavior are not "alpha" but are consequential to feeling unprotected. As Lincoln's human surrogate parent it is my responsibility to always protect Lincoln indoors and outdoors. By doing this consistently Lincoln began to stabilize.
36:16 I describe how to apply a reset hug. You must be extremely careful not to put yourself into danger if you are not proficient in applying reset hugs to a dysfunctional dog. When your dog moves away from your reset hug this indicates they are not familiar with this level of intimacy.
38:36 "Flight then fight" is the correct order. How to order your words contextually for your dog.
42:02 Alexander: "So what are most dog trainers or the field-at-large, what are they getting wrong in your opinion about dog training and maybe specifically with some of these more dangerous dogs?"
42:14 "That they cannot be helped."
43:34 Alexander: "I was going to ask is that because the strategies that they are employing work up to a certain limit. Like they work with "My dog p*es on the rug" kind of thing but then they don't necessarily work when you get to a dog that tries to bite, like if a human gets close."
43:53 Behavior is individualistic yet is homogeneous across all species. We teach that we are their surrogate parents.
45:40 Correction: I confused Richter and Harlow's projects as they are both equitably cruel and misguided. No different than Ivan Pavlov deliberately cutting holes in the stomachs of dogs and letting them slowly die thereafter. These are not mantles for academia to laud or rely upon. It's not "hope" that drowning rats felt...it is the literally the Stockholm Syndrome. Plus it's nonsensical to derive "hope" which is a consciousness trait...but then declare no sophisticate consciousness exists in the mice that have "hope." There are so many lauded experiments that are facile and specious that have hurt and hampered behaviorism and psychology.
46:07 By providing a physical safe harbor (reset hug) I'm teaching the dysfunctional dog that I will protect them with my own life (intradependency). The safe harbor provides the individual a physical protection which allows them to then process their highly complex foreign emotives fully instead of truncating and defaulting to either rage or joy.
47:28 I describe Walter's violence.
48:42 I reiterate that there is no such thing as "behavioral euthanasia" to a genuine behaviorism expert.
49:18 Alexander: "So, do you feel like there's...I think I saw that you said you don't feel like there's that big of differences between breeds because I know some people say certain breeds are more aggressive or more assertive than others. Do you buy that or has that been your experience?"
50:00 Behavior, breed, genetics, age, gender, intact or not...none of that are real concerns to an experienced behaviorist. None of the aforementioned mitigating factors have any influence on how I rehabilitate because those are anecdotal issues...meaningless and superficial.
52:12 Nero dragged a woman from the family couch. Nero would try to kill men. Nero once grabbed the top of my head, causing some blood from both my temples.
54:25 Alexander: "So that story right there, what do you think was going through that dog? Like why would that dog want to do that? Someone that he knew? I know you've said if certain circumstances change or the house changes or there's changes, what's your read on something like that?"
54:42 I explain why Nero attacked.
55:27 I define the cause of why such an attack would happen.
56:23 I explain and correct the scale of dysfunction.
57:06 Alexander: "What do you feel like most people are getting wrong about training their dogs or animals? I'm a cat person. I love dogs but I have two cats. What do you think people are getting wrong about training their animals and/or just maybe even understanding their relationship they have with their animals?"
57:23 Human intrinsic fear of not understanding someone they love. Human-specie demands overt articulation as proof of consciousness. Using their name teaching them that they "belong" and provides confirmation of their own self-awareness of their physical existence.
59:30 Alexander and I discuss "chronological seniority" for his cats. Why it's important to use their names in chronological seniority. We chat.
1:02:19 Alexander: "So what else do people get wrong or maybe don't do? Sounds like saying their name. It was interesting what you said about using like kind of a solid intonation. That way, it sounds like you can maybe make it known to them when they're in need of more sternness or you're being more affectionate. I heard you say "You're a silly boy. You're a silly boy" a lot with some of those dogs you were kind of working with, especially the more violent ones. Which I thought was kind of interesting."
1:02:51 I use words that are common for a two-to-three year old human's comprehension. These are words that are often used by parents to their children.
1:03:50 Alexander: "It seems like it's almost an evolved thing, but like everybody does that with a baby, with a kitten, with a puppy. Everyone does like the puppy kitten baby voice. And it's like nobody taught us that, where did that come from?"
1:04:08 I explain why humans baby talk. Using high tones elicits play and prey interest.
1:06:41 Alexander: "It's somewhat chaotic but it seems like dogs or cats maybe understand what "chaotic" is a little bit differently than what we view as chaotic. Like you said wearing a baseball hat. Like that might freak a dog out."
1:06:56 I discuss how dogs process their field of vision. I discuss the pre-Darwin reconciliation period preceding Darwinism. Phylogenesis of consciousness. Forrest Gump intelligence.
1:10:43 Alexander: "Before we go is there anything you feel like that we didn't cover about training dogs. I'm sure there is a ton but kind of base-level things that listeners might be thinking "Okay, this is something that I can actionably do, today with my pets or people around me even."
1:11:00 I provide a leash protocol. Essentially, it's literally impossible for your dog to pull you on leash if you are physically heavier than them.
Video link to Leash Manners: https://lnkd.in/p/g52WNB2N
1:14:33 I explain that using food with a dysfunctional dog is counter-evolution. The canine specie fights to the death over food. Food elicits and enables predator interest. Nowhere in the canine specie is food used as a fiat, compliance or performative.
1:16:00 Alexander: "One thing I noticed about you and your videos is just like seems time...being willing to spend time" ... "And I get the impression that you're not doing a lot for 75 minutes. You're just slowly, like slowly touching the back of a dog, waiting, touching" ... "The dog kind of like has to get in line eventually because you're like "I'm not going to give up on this and I'm also willing to sit here for two hours to do this." And I don't think many people with their dogs just have the literal "time" to like train their dogs in that way. You said like 'two feet at a time' on a leash. Most people just aren't going to do that."
1:16:42 It's boring mundane repetitive work but rehabilitating predatory dogs is immensely fulfilling and intellectually demanding.
1:18:56 Alexander: "Well, James, you have a wild way of making a living. Where can people find you if they need help or check out the work that you've done. Where can people catch up with all that stuff?"
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Source below: https://lnkd.in/gizPdje5 Below is what we are extremely proficient in full rehabilitation over the past twelve years with third party evidence. From mild to profound dysfunctions we have a literal 100 percent rehabilitation rate. There is no such thing as "behavioral euthanasia" to an expert.
"The Soul Of A Dog; Destructuring Behavior And The Construct Of Consciousness" https://www.amazon.com/Soul-Dog-Destructuring-Construct-Consciousness/dp/1637352778/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0
- Great Dane.
- Male or female.
- Any age, including senior.
- Weighing 150 lbs or heavier.
- 35 inches or taller withers (shoulder height).
- (Prefer at) least 6 - 12 attacks (not bites) on humans.
- Prefer at least one attempt to credibly kill a human.
- Predacious level dysfunctions.
- Extreme prey drive.
- Extreme prejudice against humans or men primarily.
- Extreme prejudice against other dogs, or has killed other dogs/animals.
- Predacious protection of food.
- Predacious behaviour with toys.
- Predacious retaining after taking personal items.
- Significant anti-social interactions.
- Extreme agoraphobia aka skittishness.
- Any and all ancillary dysfunctions.
- Destructive is fine.
- Will consider vision and/or hearing impairment though medical conditions is beyond my financial ability unless you sponsor all associated costs for 12 months minimum.
- Can be heavily medicated but must be completely weaned off all psychopharmaceuticals prior to intake.