08/28/2026
He published the research that nearly killed D.A.R.E. Then he sat through the training himself. 🚨
In 2000, D.A.R.E. took a massive risk: they invited their harshest academic critics into a room and asked them how to rebuild the program. Among them was Dr. Dick Clayton, the prominent researcher whose work built the original case against D.A.R.E.
Instead of just watching from the back of the room, Dr. Clayton did something unexpected - he asked to go through the entire training as an active participant.
That single decision changed everything. Today, Dr. Clayton doesn't just support the program, he chairs D.A.R.E.’s scientific advisory board and stands as one of its biggest champions.
In Part 2 of our interview, D.A.R.E. America CEO Frank Pegueros breaks down that intense summit, how the curriculum was transformed from the ground up, and what it really takes to change a critic’s mind.
Watch/listen on YouTube or your favorite podcast platform. Search: 'Heroes Behind the Badge Podcast'